Standing room only

First it was no bicycles during peak hour train rides but they retracted that. Now, Connex is thinking of ripping off all the seats and provide ceiling straps for passengers to hang on to for standing room only train carriages. What’s next? Passengers on the roof? Passengers are not allowed to carry bags?

More passengers should just mean adding more trains to the schedule, not thinking of ways to squeeze more people into a limited volume.

Imagine what you will do with those ceiling straps? I’ll be swinging like a monkey! Assuming I can reach one!

News Link
Herald Sun “Train plan a third world joke”

8 Comments so far

  1. mellie on March 22nd, 2008 @ 7:43 am

    I think it is a fabulous idea! The seats on our trains suck. They go so far into the middle of the carriage that people who come in and have to stand end up blocking the doorway. They don’t move down the corridor like good public transport citizens.

    I think we should model our trains on the Tokyo trains. It has to be seen to be believed how many people can fit on a train! There are seats, but they just run along the wall of the train. That way when you suffer a peak hour burst, people actually move the whole way into the carriage, allowing more people on.

    I’m certainly not advocating that they cut train services. In fact, they really do need to increase them as the frequency just sucks. But I would SOOOO love some more space in the carriages, and increasing the standing room and reducing the waste of seat space would be perfect.

  2. theconundrumm on March 22nd, 2008 @ 9:11 am

    all very well, but being someone who at the ripe old age of 32 is forced to get around on a walking stick due to a knee injury… this is clearly not the best thought out plan

  3. brie on March 22nd, 2008 @ 10:02 am

    Ha. My comment was going to be that the Herald Sun can’t think of anything worse than us being ‘like the Third World.’

    Then I read the story and found that the phrase they ‘quote’ twice in the headline and the lede appears nowhere in the story. Ballieu makes the ‘joke’ reference, but the HS is using a completely unattributed (if not fabricated) quote. Man it is really the best paper ever.

    Yep, I do media studies…

  4. captainxiao on March 22nd, 2008 @ 3:23 pm

    It’s hardly third world, many large cities are having to do this because of space requirements. And it won’t be all the seats; they’d leave a row on either side to sit on leaving the rest of the carriage for standing – just like our trams. That’d be a good idea.

  5. Darren (darrenliz) on March 22nd, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

    True that it is really common in several cities to have standing-room only carriages – more trains on the rails often means greater chances for disaster (we are all already so familiar with Connex’s "excellent" track -nopunintended- record).

    However, Connex should work on fixing their scheduling/train-tracking systems, instead of placing focus on passenger density.

    Also, I’ve been neglecting posting recently as I’ve been irritated by the new Metroblogs interface. I’ll wait till they iron out the bugs first (my "Site Admin" item disappears sporadically).

  6. jono on March 25th, 2008 @ 3:27 pm

    Japan is a good idea. Basically the seats are all aligned with the backs to the outer walls of the carriages, facing inwards.

    There are many more hand straps to grab.

    This creates a huge amount of standing room, which is often needed.

    Also, in Japan all of the trains are privatised including the stations and tracks, so they operate much more efficiently and punctually than a government department.

  7. squirt (mel_corinna) on March 26th, 2008 @ 10:29 pm

    There is one thing I don’t like about the Japanese model. It is that perverts will be out to rub their bodies against their victims and they are more able to grope freely as well, when people are all squashed like sardines (esp. on Japanese trains).

    I find myself wanting to cover myself in poison ivy or wear spiky clothes.

  8. jono on March 27th, 2008 @ 1:26 pm

    squirt, I think thats pretty exaggerated. In Japan, they have about 50-100 times as many train passengers as we do. Its the standard way to get around. So a few scare stories shouldn’t take away from the fact that it succesfully serves millions of commuters.

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